someone who can. . tropius is also a good hm slave. PP Effect % TM01: Mega Punch: 80: 85: 20--A NORMAL-type attack move. net. I beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). While not as good as gen 1, Jynx is an excellent Pokemon to use on your team. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Pokémon Blue. Theirs always one HM slave. While you certainly have to bring a new 'mon on, most trainers have a dedicated slave, or slaves for each HM. Obviously, Mew is the best HM slave, if you use a gameshark or the Catch Mew glitch. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. com. Tempo Owner Karma: 24 Offline Gender:. If you don't, then I would suggest just keeping an HM slave as your last Pokemon. From the third generation onwards, Pokémon have a. Hope this helps :D. The game also includes a Mega Evolution, as well as stones that you. rojse 8 years ago #6. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. The HMs were once again changed in this generation - HM06 was changed from Whirlpool to Rock Smash, and HM08 Dive was added. Quite a valuable asset. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. removing hms is the worst sin this gen. This page lists all the moves that Pikachu can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. However, many items and side-quests may require you to use the HMs Strength, Surf, Dive and Waterfall. Generation I Level Up: Level Attack Name Type Att. Image via The Pokemon Company. 1. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. There are portions of ORAS where I actually needed to carry two HM slaves, one of which knew all the "land" HMs like Cut and Strength and the other which knew all. The player will eventually need to. badpath. Yawn - Sleeps 100% but in 2 turns. Samurott. Friend Code: 0447-6401-4083 Psychic type (forgot what. Pokémon Y Friend Code: 4441-9508-9799. each member of the team gets at least one of the HMs. I'm very tempted to use my Mew, I just refuse to use an HM on any of my "decent" Pokemon. Do you think this gen will have one?Pokémon Games - 1st Generation (Inactive) Past Pokémon Generations Discussion . I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in FireRed ( Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Strength ). (82/151)(54,30%)Effects. Apr 7, 2010. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. It teaches a compatible Pokémon a move that can also be used in the field; but using an HM in the field requires that the player have a certain Badge (except in Generation V). Hm slaves are basically the Pokemon equivalent of actual pets. Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage of HMs. HM mules will typically have three or four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other. ive never liked pure hm slaves, i like to have at least 5 usables, if only for type. A Hidden Machine (Japanese: ひでんマシン Secret Machine ), HM for short, is an item that, like a TM, is used to teach a. PP. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. In Generation 1, HM moves cannot be deleted once learned. for a series that tries so f***ing hard to sell you the idea of "pokemon are you friend and both of you help eachother" the removal of this is nonsensical from relying on your ""friends" you go to abusing mindless slaves to clear obstacles/just. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. Zapdos. Usually in each series theres a HM slave as people call it. B. TM & HM Attacks. Obviously, Mew is the best HM slave, if you use a gameshark or the Catch Mew glitch. In Generation 3, there are a total of eight different HMs. Moderator Joined Jun. It was HM05 from Generations I to III and TM70 from Generations IV to VI, as well as in Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl . Surge, Erika, Koga). For Nintendo 3DS on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Rather than a Gen 1 remake for the pokemon 20th anniversary. Cut. ago. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. All the satisfaction of overcoming obstacles by your own merit, none of the burden on your team's move or Pokemon slots. HM slaves ftw. Cut is not required to complete Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald and their remakes, Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, or Pokémon X and Y. Bibarel. PP. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. In the first Gen, Mew is by far the best HM slave for getting about. Ask him to remove the HM moves and any other moves you'll fee like deleting. Bibarel is an extremely good HM slave, but he's only found in Gen 4. Since generation 1, you have had to use up precious move slots on your Pokemon with HM moves just to get around. Moves from No. Red Blue: Its pincers are not only powerful weapons, they are used for balance when walking sideways. Yogi Bear King of Poke Games. In Generation 1, Dig has 100 base power. These are the four water type HMs: •Surf- Extremely useful and one of the most important HMs. Types of pokemon in a nuzlocke #3. #10. This is the place for most…Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. Non-battle moves Moves that can be used in the field, outside of battle. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. If you want a pokemon from any region: Bibarel - HM Cut - HM Strength - HM Surf - HM Dive - HM Waterfall - TM/HM Rock Smash. But not every HM mule would. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. I mainly made this topic to benefit would be searchers when the games come. Well for HG and SS I'm transferring my level 63 and level 100 Linoones with pick-up as HM slaves, made it through HG without Linoone ever having to battle and now all my teaam is early 70's and Linoone is still on Level 63. Type. I've never used HM slaves. This page lists all the moves that Pikachu can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. 1-2. I am currently playing Pokemon Black 2 and want a nice HM mule to take care of garbage HMs. I'm not sure, but Swanna and Pelipper can learn Fly or Surf. RogueLapras. At night, it burrows into the desert sand to sleep. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. Swampert is a tank-y third gen Pokémon whose special attack “muddy water” is incredibly useful for players, as on top of the 90 damage it deals, it can lower opponents' accuracy. Strength is used by Pokémon to move large boulders to access new areas, find items, or solve puzzles to progress to interesting places. Move groups Includes attacks that cannot miss and 1. A ROCK-type attack that hits the target with an avalanche of rocks and boulders. Golduck can use Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. Rock Smash is no longer a field move. 5, it barely added any pokemon and really did rely on going back to gen 1 to get the full experience. Druddigon - HM Surf - HM Cut - HM Strength. One of the key changes in Pokemon is that Game Freak slowly phased out HMs. 3 Answers. It was HM05 from Generations I to III and TM70 from Generations IV to VI, as well as in Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl . I dun use HM slaves because Pokemon are my friends. Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. For my playthrouugh of Alpha sapphire, my heart goes out to Bubblez the azumarill, for surfing, diving waterfalling and digging, and Bananasoar the Tropius, for flying, cutting, being moderately strong and rock smashing. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. Another way to avoid carrying an HM slave around is by removing those obstacles in the first place. Krabby/Kingler are the best HM mules for use throughout the game, as this time, Krabby can be caught with the Old Rod in locations like Route 40. 6. 12. tropius is also a good hm slave. Whether you want to load up your precious starter with HMs is up to you. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). Pokémon Yellow. Both learn Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash. 3 lbs). It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. Other than that all HM areas are optional. This page lists all the moves that Charmeleon can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. ive never liked pure hm slaves, i like to have at least 5 usables, if only for type. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. EDIT: So I just noticed that Mudkip’s HM learn set is different in Gen 6. . Catching another Mew will lock you out of the achievements. M. . 8 meters tall and weighs 105. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in Diamond, Pearl & Platinum. Hidden Machines, or HMs, are items that allow a Pokémon to learn a certain move. Swampert is a tank-y third gen Pokémon whose special attack “muddy water” is incredibly useful for players, as on top of the 90 damage it deals, it can lower opponents' accuracy. #1. Fly is a decent flying move so not really a slave. c_s_tadsen ( Expert ) - 2 years ago - report. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. Generation VII. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. It learns Strenth, Surf and Dive. Because Blaine is the OG Pokémon quiz master. It has the most amount of HMs that it can learn, I mean look at all of them! Bibarel, as a beaver, can do a lot of things that other animals can't. Sleep Powder 75% Sleep. Finally, let's preferentially select for Pokémon we encounter. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. Acc. With that being said, I also don't like to shove all of them onto 2 Pokémon. A pokemon that can learn a couple of the HM moves to make it easier. Because slavery is…Generally the weak normal type that's very common in each game (Pokemon like Furret, Linoone, Bibarel, and Stoutland) can learn a variety of HM moves. The Pokémon can be. Zeimma • 9 yr. Most of them can learn Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, and Surf. Generation VIII. . History. HM Fly is useful as it allows you to instantly return to towns you have previously visited. Type. Golduck can use Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. TM # Move. r/pokemon • Gen 1 Dark Types. Pokédex; Games; TutorialsFor Pokemon Black Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "I just heard you won't need HM slaves this gen". TM06: Toxic--85: 10--A technique that badly poisons the target. Board Topics. ago. re: Best HM Slave. Fly. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Couldn't fly so you'd need 2 flying types on you at most times. The pokemon developers do not make changes like these because how conservative the gaming community is and how hung up they are on th 'nostalgia factor'. For Alpha Sapphire, go with Zigzagoon/Linoone. If a Pokémon learns a new move while in Pokémon Day Care, an HM move can be replaced if it is at the top of the list; however, in Generation I, the Pokémon Day Care will not accept Pokémon that know HM moves. . Name. Most generation 5 players don't think it's worth catching because there are more interesting options. It learns Cut and Strength as well, putting it comfortably in the “3 HM” category that seems to dominate in Gen 6. Can even learn surf, though I usually had a good water type with that bc surf was so OP. In later games, however, I've only ever done solo runs and 5-man runs. anyone still playing 2023? 22 posts, 11/21 6:30AM. Hell Bell - Cures status effects from the whole team. 1. Slowbro - Surf, Psychic, Flash, Teleport. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a. javel34 12 years ago #2. Hmm cool. Are these B/W's biggest flaws? 7 posts, 9/26 10:11AM. Those were gyarodos and tropius. The amount of damage from the poison increases every turn. Rock Climb - Rock or Ground types. However, they are useful in most areas to access extras like items behind. When I started playing Pearl, i distributed the important HMs to ALL the pokemon in my party, i. Other than that, you need Strength, Surf, Dive, and Fly. In the core series: Generation I • Generation II • Generation III • Generation IV • Generation V • Generation VI. Fun fact: you can have all hm's on just 2 pokemon in gen 3. I've since learned (with some googling and also via this thread) that there are other good choices for HM slave, too, and that Tropius can be used legitimately with the right moveset. In Sinnoh, Bidoof all the way man. Pokémon Blue. Pikachu - Generation 1 learnset. (HM Slave) among the 5th Gen pokemon imo. . Gen 2. Whirlpool. I know this is from 5 years ago but what the hell why do you use your STARTER as an HM slave. The only games I've ever used a 6-man team on before are Gen 1, in which the only required HMs are actually not that bad (Surf and Strength, also Cut but it's only required early on, before I've collected all 6 members). Bibarel can learn all HM's except Fly and Defog. The main reasons being because most HM moves are not particularly great, and you can't delete an HM without a move deleter. 130. That’s a shame, too. It takes 1-5 levels to level it up to a Crawdaunt. Personally, in every generation I've caught pokemon during my journey that can learn at least one HM, and bring them out of the box when needed, ex: Pidgey with fly. Dragonite makes a pretty good hm slave. Guess what Pokémon can learn all of these moves? Yes, Bibarel. Generation VII • Generation VIII ( SwSh • BDSP) • Generation IX. #1: Smeargle #2: Bidoof/Bibarel #3: Zigzagoon/Linoone, with Pickup Gen 1 slave I also like is Parasect, with Cut, Dig, Leech Life. News. Was said to be. I always decide what pokemon I want in the beginning (usually changes as I. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Sandshrew is now part of the Onix tail. 2. Surf and Waterfall are actually decent moves that are special and physical, respectively. Applying this to following pokemon in BDSP keeps the feel of the original games whilst giving good quality of life. ORAS: slakoth- cut, rock smash, strength and yawn (ultimately becoming my catching pokemon along with HM slave) And magikarp/gyarados- surf, waterfall and dive. Game Freak removed HMs in gen 7 and replaced them with PokéRides. News. Gyarados is also great. Do You use HM slaves?. In the core series games. These Legendaries are just HM slaves. Surf was already one of the strongest Water attacks in Gen 1. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. Pokemon from every Gen up to 6, and updated move sets for each Pokemon. Wooper can learn Waterfall, Surf, Whirlpool, and Flash. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Country. This item article is part of Project ItemDex, a Bulbapedia. Flash and Defog are for the weak. Cut. Needless to say, some players had to acquiesce to this. ORAS/Gen 3 were the worst, Platinum was the best. About 1 new team member per gym is the best rate to go at I find. Then by replacing them with riding pokemon in Alola. Well surf and waterfall are two pretty great water-type moves. Generation 6; Generation 7; Generation 8; Generation 9. This meme points out the hilarious irony of Swampert's buff build yet weakness. it's pretty good. 4. Krabby. They have been since gen 5. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). HM slave is a term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is not used for battling, but to provide navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machine. Technically, you could get him in gen 1 without a cheating device through some manipulations (I did it on the VC versions to complete the dex). Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Now, 3 out of those 4 are physical moves, so let's prefer Pokemon with high Attack. Additionally, the moves contained within. : r/pokemon. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in HeartGold & SoulSilver. HM01 has always been Cut. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. I have an Electric Safari: Dedenne, Helioptile, and Luxio. ago. I try to balance the HMs and TMs on my team. ago. 📽️Subscribe here! is the best Pokemon to use as an HM specialist in every Pokemon game (that has HMs)?💸Patreon for exclusive. It can learn strength, cut, and rock smash which are the most annoying HMs to have to have. Only needed twice though. :) One, you get a Pokemon that can learn four HMs, and two, you get a pick-up slave that will level up with you if you keep the EXP share on and by extension get you better items. #1. Not open for further replies. Boards. Once I have completed the game, I usually have a water pokemon knowing Surf and a HM slave with Fly and some other moves . This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. It is kind of an HM slave, but one that can hold its own in battle. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. A New HM System: Have access to all of your favourite HMs without the hassle of carrying HM slaves! As long as your Pokemon can learn an HM, they will be able to use it in the overworld. An HM slave, then, is a term for a pokemon that is not used for battle but knows one or more of these moves, such that the battle performance of your other 5. e. For XY Bibarel - Cut, Strength, Surf, Waterfall Talon Flame - Fly. Nice, thanks for the heads up. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. Just saying the bike has a rotom in it is a massive cop out. These items are usually necessary to progress, and as such, can be used multiple times on multiple Pokémon, unlike Technical Machines, or TMs. hms. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. HM slaves are Pokémon that are not used for battling but for completion of the game, or for getting from area to area. I have an Electric Safari: Dedenne, Helioptile, and Luxio. I think crawdaunt learns all those moves. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. The egg group of this pokemon is Monster, Water 1. 5 3. Row 0 - Cell 2. Mew is the obvious choice. In their most recent iteration, most HM moves have a Base Power of at least 80 with the only exceptions being Cut, Rock Smash, and Whirlpool. I tend to give HM moves that aren't so useful to Pokemon I don't use often, but I still don't treat them like slaves. Improve this. Parasect is an orange, insectoid Pokémon that has been completely overtaken by the parasitic mushroom on its back. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. In Pt I used Bidoof/Bibarel and just levelled him up with Rock Smash/Strength/Cut and. I've got that duck one with Fly and Surf, but he can't learn Waterfall -_- Figured I'd check and see what people have found works best for themselves. Accepted Answer. Curiously, I tend to think of Tropius as an HM-user before any of these. Third-gen dex has info on Pokemon and all the moves they can learn (also there's the Attackdex which lists all the moves and who can learn them) - a bit of searching got me some like Diglett, Poochyena, Kecleon. 1 Pidove. It would be interesting to have the option to teach each Pokemon at least one HM. This way, you don't need to sacrifice a move slot of your party Pokemon or make use of an HM slave. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. 5 3. Technical Machines. Venonat is an insect Pokémon with a spherical body covered in purple fur. Jothomaster202. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and. This account has been placed into Purgatory, a timed suspension from posting any further messages on GameFAQs. You guys are discussing which pokemon to make an hm slave. It learns Strenth, Surf and Dive. I generally spread out my HMs among a few pokemon. Questions. Move 1: Strength Move 2: Rock Smash Move 3: Fly Move 4: Defog Item: Silk Scarf Ability: Pressure Nature: Adamant EVs: 6HP, 252ATT, 252SPD Name: Kabutops Move 1: Waterfall Move 2: Surf Move 3: Rock Climb Move 4: Cut Item: Mystic Water Ability: Swift Swim Nature: Adamant EVs: 6HP, 252ATT, 252SPD Anybody else know any 2. Hey all, I haven't seen a discussion talking about what pokemon are the best HM slaves for Gen 5. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. To get them in B/W before the E4, you'd presumably need. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. Pokémon Gold & Silver added two new HMs to the five from Generation 1 - both used in water. Flash is not really needed in Gen 1. Below are all the Pokémon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald with the HMs they can learn. . The user of Dig will burrow its way underground on the first turn, disappearing from view and becoming invulnerable to most attacks. imgur. I just used the HMs as a kind of "trash sweeper" move. It is derived from the fact that Skitty and Wailord can breed in the games despite their massive size difference. Generation VIII. 2 Answers. Z-Moves A list of Z-Moves from Pokémon Sun & Moon with their effects. 3DS FC: 1822-0159-2098 Luxio safari. TM/HM # Attack Name Type Att. Krabby is a Water-type Pokémon and it’s best known for its rapid speed and aggression. In Generations 1-4, Krabby has a base experience yield of 115. 8. ago. One of the key changes in Pokemon is that Game Freak slowly phased out HMs. However these HMs are surf and fly, which are the most important for traversing the Hoenn map. Go with the classic HM slaves, Arceus and Rayquaza. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. I'd say a Krabby is a better HM slave than the previously suggested Gyarados or Lapras- those are much better used for fighting and much harder to come by, while Krabby are relatively common in the wild. 3DS - 3007 - 8991 - 4413 (VM/PM me to add you) . I need 2 HM slaves for soul silver. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. rkman427 13 years ago #3. In Generations 1-4, Slowpoke has a base experience yield of 99. Red Blue: Incredibly slow and dopey.